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Ron (Rnmcd)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 06, 2000 - 12:32 pm: |
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I am new to web design, cgi, and web hosting. Does anyone have a web host that they would recommend for a newbie? I think that I will eventually use Discus Pro but I don't expect that I will need more than 30mb of space from the host. I probably won't have many hits. It's just going to be a board for classmates. Customer support is important to me too. I saw the company that Discus suggests but it was pricier than I would like. Is it possible to get a good web host that can support discus' board for under $15/month? Thanks. |
   
Jeff Cranfill (Jcranfill)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 06, 2000 - 01:02 pm: |
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Check out www.your-site.com. Speedy servers, good tech support. Heck, they called ME when I had a question, so I wouldn't have to call long distance (they have no 800#).. I recently ran a 1200 item charity auction there using a highly modified (and extremely LARGE and CLUNKY) version of Everyauction 1.01. Communitech and CiHost both kicked me off for using too many resources. It ran like it was the only thing going at your-site. |
   
Kevin P.
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 06, 2000 - 02:02 pm: |
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In addition to any web hosts that other Discus users might suggest here, try the "Recommended Web Hosts" list found on the Discus home page for our answer. |
   
Steve Dondley (Nysus)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 06, 2000 - 02:39 pm: |
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I've got a host service for $6.95 per month that suits my needs just perfectly for my small board. It handles Discus Pro without a hitch. http://www.hostsave.com |
   
Ron (Rnmcd)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2000 - 12:41 pm: |
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Thanks very much for the input. If anyone has any additional suggestions please feel free to post them. By the way, is anyone familiar with www.Dzones.com? They "appear" pretty good. Kevin- the "Recommended Hosts" list from Discus only includes two companies (unless I am looking at the wrong page). They are a little pricier than I would like. Thanks everyone. |
   
Don Nelson (Dknelson)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2000 - 01:06 pm: |
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I'll second Jeff's suggestion about your-site.com. I'm running 3 forums there and never had a problem of any type. Don Nelson |
   
Ron (Rnmcd)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2000 - 11:10 am: |
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Anyone else? |
   
Glen Cianciulli (Jemsite)
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2000 - 02:27 pm: |
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I use two hosts for a pretty large website: for my website http://www.superuser.net for my discus board (1300 members) http://www.aplushosting.com Both have plans under $15 althought mine cost more due to resources required. No problems in 8 months (*knocks on wood*). Prior to them i had many webhost problems... glen |
   
Ron (Rnmcd)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 16, 2000 - 10:53 am: |
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May I ask which hosts you had a problem with? Thanks. |
   
Glen Cianciulli (Jemsite)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 16, 2000 - 11:40 am: |
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Sorry Ron but i have not saved my documents of bad hosts... i'll remember them when i see them though. Problems arise when a small company gets "purchased" by a competitor. Happens alot. One i remember was "digitalsea" in that i signed up and it worked fine but for a few weeks they would not transfer my domain. Then i couldn't cancel so i had to block my credit card. Just watch the TRANSFER limits (hidden costs) and see if they have 30-60 day money back guarantee... glen |
   
Kevin Harris
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 11:32 am: |
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I am having difficulty determining which web hosts will support Discus, (presumably more than the two one-click-install sites), and which will not. I realize that sites change, but by searching the support forum I eventually determined that Tripod will not work, although several people appear to have wasted a lot of time trying. This information will save me from wasting my time on Tripod, but I had to go through several postings about Tripod before I found one that actually said Discus would not work on Tripod. I'd like to suggest that Discus users and staff be allowed to post to a board that would show up right under the current list of one-click-install web hosts. These postings would only cover which web hosts were known to work or not work as of a certain date. This would be for guidance only, not a guarantee. (Of course, it would be nice to have this information reduced to two lists, but I realize that would be more work for Discus staff.) Please consider this suggestion, which I believe has the potential to save a lot of time being wasted by Discus users, as well as the Discus staff supporting them. It might also cause fewer potential users to give up on Discus and find another solution. Thanks |
   
Kevin P.
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 09:28 am: |
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We appreciate the suggestion. A good rule of thumb is this: if it's a free service, it won't support Discus or other CGI scripts. Two exceptions are Hypermart and VirtualAve. We've actually tried this suggestion before, but only a few people posted web hosts and the list was eventually discontinued. Although we are privileged to hear from Discus and software enthusiasts and also many people who experience difficulty, most people who install Discus successfully are never heard from on this forum. |
   
Don Nelson (Dknelson)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 09:35 am: |
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I've used a number of hosts and while some have been better than others in regard to server performance, all have run the Discus Pro software with no problem. http://www.cihost.com (poor servers) http://www.concentric.net (poor interface) http://www.your-site.com (very good value and no major problems) http://www.olm.net (EXCELLENT speed and my current host) Don Nelson http://www.vtsmta.com/forum |
   
L. Chapman (Lc2000)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 04, 2001 - 09:13 am: |
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Don, were/are you able to use Reply-by-Email on your-site.com and olm.net? If so, did/do you use a .forward file for this? Thanks, LC |
   
Don Nelson (Dknelson)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 05, 2001 - 06:54 am: |
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Sorry, I'm a bad one to ask about that. I've been unable to get reply by email to work on any host but I'm sure it's something that I'm doing wrong. I haven't had much time to mess with it. I did try briefly with OLM.net and it was sending out the test messages properly but my replies never showed up on the forum. I intend to mess with it some more in the near future. Don |
   
Don Nelson (Dknelson)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 05, 2001 - 06:54 am: |
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Oh...and my first attempts were by using procmail. I haven't tried the .forward yet. Don |
   
Ken Carlson
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 26, 2001 - 02:33 pm: |
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I have the same problem. Has anyone managed to get reply by email working on an OLM host? Ken |
   
L. Chapman (Lc2000)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 26, 2001 - 03:21 pm: |
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I gave up trying to get reply by email working, but for all other purposes I've had good luck with addr.com -- Quick set up and relatively inexpensive hosting. You do have to request telnet access once your account is set up. I'm currently serving 7,000 discus pages daily and have been informed that I need to upgrade from the addr.com silver to gold account. |
   
bbbltd
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 30, 2001 - 05:47 am: |
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I am on my third server. The first was expensive and had the worst tech support I had ever seen. The second, wideeyedcomputers.com was inexpensive and great (I have other sites hosted with them and one discus pro board without email) but they don't have the capability for email notification, a critical part of our networking group. Now, the third is priced right (under $17.00 per month), though allowing unlimited traffic and space, is complaining about the volume of emails! They want to charge me 4 times the amount of the site, just to handle the email. We have 1900 members and sometimes up to 5000 messages going out each day. I have looked at a couple of the suggestions, and I worry about the limits.. Anyone else having these problems? |
   
brian box
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 31, 2001 - 03:42 am: |
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Hi, Firstly, home much bandwidth do you need? Secondly, Would you consider a unix server in Britain? Thirdly - how much storage space etc... I can do 3000mb bandwidth (5pence per MB afterwards) on a unix server. 100 pop 3 email boxes - unlimited aliases. Obviously full CGI etc. Autoresponders...etc. etc. I run my webboard (although I only put it up yesterday!!)fine. About £10 ($15?) per month. Feel free to email me... I can recomend another company if you need something really big. |
   
DJP
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, December 24, 2001 - 11:42 am: |
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It's been a while since anyone posted to this topic. Is there now a simple list of WebHosts who can do Discus Pro justice ? |
   
Don Nelson (Dknelson)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, December 24, 2001 - 11:53 am: |
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> [I'm still using and am very happy with OLM.net. They have continued to do a good job for us.] |
   
Michael Sean Brown (Theinfomaniac)
New member Username: Theinfomaniac
Post Number: 5 Registered: 09-2001
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2002 - 03:46 pm: |
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I looked around quite a bit for my replacement host (I was on wantsomegetsome.net, which was fine and good 24/7 TELEPHONE tech support, but they WENT OUT OF BUSINESS!) I found OLM.net on www.cnet.com as one of their recommendations. When picking a host this time, I weighed heavy the postings I could find ANYWHERE on the net about a host. My needs were I wanted strong CGI support, SSI capability, a REASONABLE amount of POP accounts (I get 50 for $8.95 a month, with 500 MB storage, and 8GB traffic). One of the most important issues was I HAD to have 24/7 PHONE tech support. I work on my sites between 10 pm and 3 am (the woes of an insomniac) and I wanted someone there NOW if I needed them. (I can't tell you how helpful this feature is, because I've used late night tech support often enough. I would be TOTALLY frustrated if they weren't there.) Not only does OLM have 24/7 phone support, but they actually answer the phone right off the bat (877-265-6638) insead of a long que to get to talk to someone. I haven't been using them long enough to evaluate OLM's dependablilty (Don Nelson posting in this string would be a better judge), nor have I tested the wit and skill of their tech support (I've only hit them with basic setup questions so far, which have been handled fine). Here's a great heads up: Go to http://www.olm.net/cnet/ to get their pricing. For some reason, they REALLY are giving CNET people a break on the pricing. I'm getting 500MB/8GB/50 POP for $8.95 a month, while if you check their regular home page, it goes for $19.95 a month! The price is RIGHT. Again, I can't vouch for anything much but research and reputation, but I spend a LOT of time researching things before I commit myself, and I think OLM is a good option. Sean Brown www.theinfomaniac.net |
   
Jeff Cranfill (Jcranfill)
Advanced Member Username: Jcranfill
Post Number: 94 Registered: 11-2000
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2002 - 03:54 pm: |
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Through Don's suggestion above, I also went with olm.net for a dedicated server. Great service, both through their web-based ticket system and over the telephone (it's nice to have both options)...You can even open a ticket, them call them to rush it if it's truly an emergency...please dont abuse it otherwise..;) Server has had very little down time (2 hours total since I've been there). Their web based control panel (Ensim) freaks out on me about once per month, but I can telnet in and run a single command to reset it as needed. Or just open a ticket..;)
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MDB (Bouncer)
New member Username: Bouncer
Post Number: 92 Registered: 05-2000
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2002 - 09:38 pm: |
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Man...as a small time host, I have to say 24/7 phone support on a $8.95 page is very good. I wonder what are the chances that *they* stay in business? |
   
Jerry Moore (Myshortpencil)
New member Username: Myshortpencil
Post Number: 60 Registered: 03-2001
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2002 - 11:22 pm: |
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Do not use BURST.NET. I have been with them for 1.5 years and I would not recommend the company to anyone for any reason. When my contract with them is up, I'm gone. I am having good service from amhosting.com (Message edited by myshortpencil on January 06, 2002) |
   
Jerry Moore
Advanced Member Username: Myshortpencil
Post Number: 66 Registered: 03-2001
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 04:42 pm: |
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I've found another hosting company that has given me excellent responses on service requests at excellent prices with very good data transmission rates from Florida to NY. It's running Discus Pro v.4.0.b29 just fine in both flat-file and database modes. Check out Feature Price. BTW, the site is at sacc.tv. (Message edited by myshortpencil on February 28, 2002) |
   
Jerry Moore
Advanced Member Username: Myshortpencil
Post Number: 81 Registered: 03-2001
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 09:45 am: |
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Stay away from FeaturePrice I gave FeaturePrice a 30 day trial. For 2 days, the service was completely offline as a result of a Denial Of Service attack. After that attack, my server's scripts have stopped running nearly every day for two weeks. It takes hours for them to reset the server. I have filed 25 trouble tickets in 30 days! I asked FeaturePrice for my money back. My site has been completely offline or inaccessible through the discussion forum for well over 48 hours on a 99.9% uptime guarentee. FeaturePrice refuses to honor its 30 day money back guarantee. Moreover, it requires a full year's payment up front. DO NOT USE featureprice.com and do not use burst.net. See my post two messages above on burst.net. I am going to try olm.com next. If that doesn't work, its on to my own server with DSL and a dedicated IP. (Message edited by myshortpencil on March 12, 2002) |
   
Ajay Gallewale
Senior Member Username: Ajay
Post Number: 376 Registered: 03-2000
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 10:10 am: |
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I have been using OLM for last 1.5 years and quite happy with them. Sometimes support folks are not knowledgable but they have a mailing list which is monitored and answered by senior support staff who are good technically too. But for routine admin jobs it is not at all an issue (only if you have real arcane technical issues) Also you want to take backup yourself because if you want to restore a backup they charge $50 unless there is a hardware failure or their fault. (Message edited by ajay on March 12, 2002) |
   
Jerry Moore
Advanced Member Username: Myshortpencil
Post Number: 82 Registered: 03-2001
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 11:29 pm: |
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Thank you so much for the advice. |
   
Lyssa Unregistered guest
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 19, 2002 - 10:00 am: |
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I have been using YOUR-SITE for almost a year now. In the beginning they were great but since about March my site has been lagging, freezing up and extremely slow. I contacted YOUR-SITE and they say its not them. Said it was me. I find it funny that everyone visiting my site has complained that they dont have any problems anywhere else but at my site. Like I said...my pages worked fine for the first 6 months, very quick. Not now though. It's as if I am on a 14,000 bps dialup connection. Also...Your-site only offers one plan now. 50meg of storage and 6 gig transfer. Nothing more. Time for me to move on. Searching for the ultimate server without a hefty monthly bill. lyssa
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Jeff Cranfill
Senior Member Username: Jcranfill
Post Number: 143 Registered: 11-2000
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 19, 2002 - 10:34 am: |
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Sorry to see that your-site.com is falling victim to their own growth. Jason was such a good guy.. I'm still with olm.net for my main server, and theyve treated me well. I still hear about the occasional billing nightmare, but it's usually from somebody in Maylasia that wants to pay with somebody's CC in Arizona or something odd like that. I also have a server at mchost. I hate to say it, but I do not recommend them. Great tech support, but more than a fair share of downtime. |
   
Lyssa Unregistered guest
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 19, 2002 - 10:57 am: |
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I am finding it hard as my 'content' is requiring me to go to an adult server now. I just emailed Your-site and told them I was going to move on and if they would assist me (as per their own FAQ stated to do)....low and behold... I was shut down just a few minutes ago. |
   
Lyssa Unregistered guest
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 19, 2002 - 11:00 am: |
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I take that back, they were just teasing me. hehehe |
   
Matt Ellmer
New member Username: Remlle
Post Number: 1 Registered: 04-2002
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 19, 2002 - 11:39 am: |
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lyssa. I run a small web company catering to the adult industry. I host 4 adult sites and more are on the way. I can host any type of content as long as it is legal. I also have experience and have contractors who work for me who have experience with the discus software. my main site is www.remlle.net e-mail me and we can go over a pricing structure that meets what you need. I bill depending on what the user wants and needs most sites start small then get big so rather than charge you alot when your small I start small and the price grows as you grow. My e-mail is remlle@remlle.net I run www.wifeposter.com www.tammy-cam.com www.juliawebcam.com www.mysexywifecandi.com Those are just my starting pages. I have others. please e-mail me and we can discuss what your looking for.
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Marco Fantoni
Senior Member Username: Kalahari
Post Number: 119 Registered: 01-2002
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 23, 2002 - 12:27 am: |
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You excuse if I intervene me, I am Italian it is I have problems of English. Am I about to purchase a service hosting, and would I have almost select http://www.olm.com , and to the intention thing thought a good service of it? also as I support? How prices to me seem enough good, and give a lot of space disk. Is what I would like to know; the connection is good, speed of loading of the pages, interruptions etc..? I thought about the service 500MB 8GB for discus4pro. Thanks, Mark
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Jerry Moore
Advanced Member Username: Myshortpencil
Post Number: 91 Registered: 03-2001
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 23, 2002 - 12:07 pm: |
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FeaturePrice & BurstNet Update Since February 2002, both http://www.burst.net/ and http://www2.featureprice.com/ have been providing great, continuous Internet service. They both run Discus Versions 3 & 4. Both these hosting services now meet with my approval. I did not try http://www.olm.com BTW, with a cable modem, both BurstNet (in Pennsylvania) and FeaturePrice (in Florida) provide me with ~120kbs downloads. Doing a trace route from the server to your area is recommended to check the up- & download speeds to your area. (Message edited by myshortpencil on August 23, 2002) (Message edited by myshortpencil on August 23, 2002) |
   
Lyssa Sweet
New member Username: Lyssa
Post Number: 5 Registered: 11-2002
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 10:54 pm: |
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I highly suggest SINTELLIGENT I've been with them for 10 months now and never had a real problem. They update on Saturdays so you know they are on top of things. They have online live help, a phone number to call if your site crashes, and answer emails fast. PLUS....they dont have a separate price for Adult based sites. Thats a plus! TELL THEM I SENT YA!!!!!  |
   
Tim Belmonte
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, January 11, 2003 - 08:08 pm: |
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I found a GREAT host that is so cheep it's incredible! http://www.myqth.com is only $50 a YEAR and offers EVERYTHING! includes 500megs and 30 gigs bandwidth... Also has 100 pop3's and unlimited email forwarding and responders. allows MySQL and CRON jobs. Allows annon FTP and countless other features. Excellent tech support as well. Fast servers too. |
   
bbaynes AT attbi DOT com Unregistered guest
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 07:16 pm: |
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HELP. I need a cheap host ($5/mo?) on which to run Discus Freeware for a SMALL (6 member) discussion list. (Just for 6 friends to keep in touch.) Can anyone recommend a host? There are some great suggestions here, but most of the posts are a little old. Anyone w/ some more current experience? I've looked at lowesthosting.com--anyone know anything about them? I have zero experience setting anything like this up. Thanks. Brian ( bbaynes AT attbi DOT com ) *Also, if there's a better solution than Discus Freeware, I'd like to know. |
   
bbaynes AT attbi DOT com Unregistered guest
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 07:29 pm: |
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HELP. I need a cheap host ($5/mo?) on which to run Discus Freeware for a SMALL (6 member) discussion list. (Just for 6 friends to keep in touch.) Can anyone recommend a host? There are some great suggestions here, but most of the posts are a little old. Anyone w/ some more current experience? I've looked at lowesthosting.com--anyone know anything about them? I have zero experience setting anything like this up. Thanks. Brian ( bbaynes AT attbi DOT com ) *Also, if there's a better solution than Discus Freeware, I'd like to know. |
   
Toby
Senior Member Username: Toby
Post Number: 752 Registered: 07-2001
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 02:22 am: |
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Discus Freeware is great, should do exactly what you want. I looked at lowesthosting.com and they seem to offer all that's needed, and I would think 30MB should be enough for your needs. However the prices they compare themselves with aren't that realistic. I've always had hosts far cheaper than that. Currently I'm on http://www.myqth.com since Tim suggested them here and they are great, you just have to think of doing your own backups in case something goes wrong. But at least they warn you that they don't do backups, some other hosts say they do but haven't got one when their server gets hacked... http://www.myqth.com is only US$49 (plus I pay 8.88 for the domain at namecheap.com), cheaper than lowesthosting.com's "Only $4.95 Per Month" which is 78.40 for the first year and 59.40 for following years. Before taking an account for a year somewhere you should try it for a month. Perhaps their connection is horrible, or something else sucks. You'll get a pretty good idea about their services in a month. |
   
Steppingstones
Unregistered guest
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, June 08, 2003 - 10:53 am: |
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I have recently moved two of my Discus Pro boards to http//:www.unitedhosting.co.uk Take a look at their reseller package - tons of space for the largest board. Also their performance and reliability has been first class. I had no problems installing the software and switching on the database features. Prior to that I hosted with Communitech. However, since they have been bought out by Interland, performance and service have become unacceptable. I am moving all my websites to UnitedHosting. Russell http://www.deer-forums.com http://www.dog-forums.com |
   
jack starkman Unregistered guest
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 01:07 pm: |
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I'm really new to this, and have devoured every word on this page, and I think I know which host to go with now, but due to me being an idiot I still have a few questions. I know that I'm going to buy and run Discus,and I'm looking at over 2000 visitors a day, on a four topic board, I'm wondering if 30 gigs of bandwidth a month will be enough if there are profile pics in every post. I run a couple of small adult sites right now but a discussion board seems like a completely different animal to me,(but it's what I really want to get running), is the administrative part going to bury me? |
   
Toby
Senior Member Username: Toby
Post Number: 766 Registered: 07-2001
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 01:18 pm: |
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I can't really answer as I only have two very small Discus boards, but "30GB" alone doesn't say that much - if their server is running the Apache mod_gzip module, 30GB is much much more than 30GB without the gzip module. So that's one thing to look for if you're comparing bandwidths. |
   
Kevin P.
Moderator Username: Paulisse
Post Number: 11602 Registered: 11-1999
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 07:10 am: |
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If you're allowing picture upload, your biggest concern is the size of the pictures you'll allow to be uploaded. For example, the size of the thread you're currently reading, before my post, is 134711 bytes (and that's big for a thread, in fact the third largest in this topic). By comparison, a decently-sized image would probably be that size at minimum, and probably bigger. If you have 5 posts on a page each with a 125 K image, the data transfer to load that page and the images will be about five times greater than loading up this page with its 91 messages. So, keep that in mind as you set up your hosting and also configure the maximum size of uploaded images. |
   
jack starkman Unregistered guest
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 11:51 am: |
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Thanks for getting back to me so fast, you guys are great. After talking to many people that plan to visit my site on a daily basis, a profile picture is very important to them. I think I'm going to go with OLM for a host but I don't want to over buy if I can help it,(this is a free site), but I don't want to run into over charges. And I don't really want to pay for something that I'm not using. Like I said I'm really new to this and I still have a lot of information from this thread that I haven't had a chance to look at yet. (By the way this is the best support board I have encountered as far as getting the info that you need) I don't want to drift this thread any further but is there away I can calculate estimated bandwidth using 125k as a basic image size, and 2000 daily visitors? I'm going to go and learn about gzip module(thanks Toby), but is 30gigs with or without gzip going to be near enough? There is no doubt in my mind that I will be using Discus, I just need to find the right host and package size. I'll look for a more appropriate topic to post my other questions. But I think bandwidth is pretty important when considering a host, I would hate to wake up a week and a half into the month and find my site is down because my bandwidth was eaten up, that looks really bad, and I don't need extra help looking bad. I have that perfected. |
   
Kevin P.
Moderator Username: Paulisse
Post Number: 11613 Registered: 11-1999
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 07:08 pm: |
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How about this, very rough estimate: 2000 visitors per day, each visitor hits 10 pages, each page has 5 images, each image is 125k. Thus your usage per day is: 2000 * 10 * 5 * 125 = 12500000k per day * 30 = 375000000k per month. That's 357 gigs, more than 10 times what you're thinking about, so if this seems even remotely possible, you'll need to re-evaluate your bandwidth needs. 30 gigs per month seems very small for a site consisting primarily of multimedia and image content. |
   
Joyce L.
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2003 - 11:01 pm: |
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My board has 2200 some users and uses 700MB of space (even with constant trimming) at this point, and I am looking at where I can go with it. I was getting pretty excited about United Hosting until I read this in their TOS: "Banned Scripts:" "You are free to use any scripts you wish provided they do not affect the normal operations of the server and they are not mentioned specifically below. Scripts that are commonly known for causing server disruption include large cgi-based message forums, auctions, and banner exchanges. In the event a script affects normal server and/or administrative operations, United Hosting reserves the right to disable the account pending client cooperation and resolution. Scripts we do not allow include: - Chat servers/scripts of any kind are strictly prohibited. - Formmail is not allowed on our servers" __________________ I am not having any luck finding a place, they all say "lots of gigs of space and bandwidth, but don't use cgi message boards or send large amts. of mail." Are we all doomed to having to go to dedicated servers? |
   
EJ Bogusch
Senior Member Username: Ejbogusch
Post Number: 269 Registered: 01-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 06:23 am: |
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Joyce I have been using OLM.net for over a year now with no problems. Up until last month I was on a shared server and just recently went dedicated. Their shared server accounts worked fine with my one gig discus board. (Message edited by EJBogusch on November 27, 2003) |
   
Kevin P.
Moderator Username: Paulisse
Post Number: 12692 Registered: 11-1999
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 10:42 am: |
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One additional note that may be of interest - many CGI message boards generate each screen dynamically for the end-user, sometimes querying a database, which creates substantial load on the server. Discus message pages are static HTML files on the server, so the act of reading messages on your board does not cause substantial load on the server. However, I do point out that if a particular web host is already biased against discussion software in general, you are probably best served to look elsewhere. |
   
MDB
Advanced Member Username: Bouncer
Post Number: 96 Registered: 05-2000
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 10:55 am: |
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Joyce, you can come look at our offerings. I have since gone to another forum software (sorry Kevin) but the size of your forum doesn't worry me. I am curious however, of the amount of bandwidth you are using? 10 gigs or so wouldn't be too much... http://webrebel.com I don't know any host that allows 300, even dedicated. |
   
Joyce L.
Unregistered guest
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 11:33 am: |
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I am not sure what this converts to, but I have 2 copies of the discus software on separate sites. This was for 17 days (Nov. 1-17) on the main site. Data transferred: 7,287,301,536 bytes Average data transferred per day: 428,524,755 bytes....I hope that isn't 728GB My other copy of discus is integrated into it as an album. This is for so far this month there. 101.58 Megabytes Thank you for your input! I am open to any other suggestions anyone might have also. Has anyone had any experience with http://www.ixwebhosting.com/ ? |
   
MDB
Advanced Member Username: Bouncer
Post Number: 97 Registered: 05-2000
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 12:33 pm: |
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Naw...that's 7 meg. If your bandwidth doesn't go over say 5 gig a month (and you aren't even close) I can give you the 1 gig deal at the 500 MB cost and throw in the second domain. To sum up: 2 sites-1GB space-3GB/mo bandwidth= $288/yr ($24/mo) Call it a holiday special :-) Only thing I can add is ask around about connectivity. Cheap and all the features in the world is great but if you can't connect it's all academic...
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Bryan
Senior Member Username: Bryan
Post Number: 196 Registered: 12-2002
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 01:17 pm: |
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MDB, That's surely not 7 megabytes per month, she's using 7.28 gigabytes per month. 1gb = 1,073,741,824 bytes |
   
Bryan
Senior Member Username: Bryan
Post Number: 197 Registered: 12-2002
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 01:18 pm: |
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Sorry, she's using 7.28 gb every 17 days |
   
Joyce L.
Unregistered guest
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 01:40 pm: |
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MDB, That looks soooo tempting! Your site seems much friendlier and less threatning than a lot of them too. I am not one to jump headfirst into anything, but I will definitely keep this in mind as I study what's out there and make my comparisons. I have also been considering possibly getting a resellers account so that maybe, ultimately I could host some discus boards too. A lot of the reseller accts. won't let you or your customers put up cgi message boards either though, and they will just delete your acct. if you try it. That is pretty scarey. You are absolutely right about the connectivity issue. That is precisely why I am looking at moving. Thank You! |
   
Joyce L.
Unregistered guest
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 01:48 pm: |
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Ooops! Those corrections on my usage were posted while I was formatting my post. I guess I wouldn't qualify for that deal after all.
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MDB
Advanced Member Username: Bouncer
Post Number: 98 Registered: 05-2000
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 02:04 pm: |
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hmmmm.....1,073,741,824 Dang KB GB MB....lol Yep, I missed a decimal or sumpin... My email deal still stands Joyce....
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alw Unregistered guest
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 01, 2004 - 09:42 pm: |
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I've had nothing but trouble with superuser.net. They don't answer emails to support and they don't answer their phone. I recently tried to get them to release a domain name for transfer. They refused numerous times. When I refused to stop writing asking them to release the domain name they called the police with claims that I had written threatening emails. Later, I found a series of blogs by doing a google search. In one of those blogs I found the exact same text, word for word, that superuser.net claimed was from a threatening email I sent. I can not recommend superuser.net to anyone. They offer no support and are vindictive when you try and leave their service. |
   
jeb
Unregistered guest
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 06:50 am: |
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Check out http://1webhost4all.com - the cheapest there is? |
   
anonymous Unregistered guest
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 11:47 am: |
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http://1webhost4all.com is less than a month old (created on 09-Jan-2004). Yes it is cheap....but cheap doesn't necessarily mean it's good. Look for proven reliability when researching a host !! |
   
Sigbjorn Vik Unregistered guest
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 08, 2004 - 01:10 pm: |
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I am using http://netfirms.com And yes, I have had some problems with them, my script suddenly stopped working, and their support was very slow to give me very unhelpful "answers". The good things about it are that I have used it for over a year with very good uptime. It's _free_ version can actually host Discus, although with limited postings (due to memory limitations). Once you upgrade ($5 per month), you will be given a larger memory allowance, and you will be able to have larger threads. So it is good if you want to try setting up a board somewhere for free, and then you can either upgrade or move later, once you know how the board works for you.
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super___fly@hotmail.com
New member Username: Superfly
Post Number: 1 Registered: 10-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 04:59 pm: |
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I am working with technolojik internet solitions. and I think they are so good becouse they are very cheap and they have got prestige all of the world. in the world they have got 52.000 customers. they gives php perl pyton cgi asp asp.net coldfusion tomcat mysql mssql and everything is unlimited . this is not a joke. yes disk space unlimited. and olny $1.66 per month. and also they gives unlimited spaces and 400 mbit speed and 7/24/365 mail and phone support www.technolojik.net |
   
JoyceL
Unregistered guest
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 26, 2005 - 12:55 pm: |
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Just FWIW, this is from technolojik.nets TOS: Bulk / Spam Email The use of our network to send bulk email whether opt-in or otherwise, and the use of bulk email to promote a site on our network is strictly forbidden. Misuse Of Resources Including but not limited to employing applications which consume excessive CPU time, memory or storage space. Chat/IRC, web proxy and mailing list scripts are not allowed on our network under any circumstances. CGI based message forums which use flat file databases are often found to use excessive system resources, to avoid disappointment please use a PHP/ASP message forum and this is what I recently received from a query to OLM's tech support...it sounds a little risky to me. Your site was recommended as a good place to host a discus forum. I noticed in your policies section though that you specifically mention retaining the right to disable any .cgi scripts that require a lot of resources....are discus forums considered to be in that category? Joyce ________ ANSWER:Hello Joyce, Thank you for contacting OLM. The Basic discussion forums are generally ok and do not use an extensive amount of resources. We determine this on a case by case basis. Please let me know if you have any additional questions. Best Regards, Kimberly K. Technical Sales Representative OLM, LLC |
   
Dawnna Masters
New member Username: Saltgrassmama
Post Number: 1 Registered: 06-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 09, 2005 - 04:38 pm: |
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Don't use Earthlink! They have crashed my board twice in the last month moving my site around on their servers and their tech support is horrible. The first thing they tell you is "we didn't move anything" until you explain to them that you know more about what they are doing than they do and that you know they did change your path. They are scary. I am now looking for another webhosting company, but I am nervous about transferring my site (I am not that proficient, I kind of got roped into the deal). |
   
BR -
Senior Member Username: Chris
Post Number: 257 Registered: 05-2000
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 11:56 am: |
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Is anyone using GoDaddy.com? I've had recommendations from their users, but no one who is using Discus. They seem to have everything required to run the board. Just wondering if anyone had any experience with them. Thanks. |
   
Rick Ratchford
Member Username: Fdates
Post Number: 19 Registered: 01-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 10:17 pm: |
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I'm completely at wits end. Today is the nth time that pair.net has disabled my /discus/board-post.cgi. "We regret to inform you that we needed to disable the following script located in your account because a security vulnerability within it was exploited by a malicious user in an attempt to send junk e-mails from the server:" This is ridiculous. The problem is that a bunch of emails may get bunched up and sent at once, exceeding their "3 sec" per email rule. How am I suppose to deal with this? Go to another host? Where is there a good hosting service that won't cost an arm and leg, provide plenty of space and reliability, and not be disabling my script every x number of days? I could not find a "Recommended Web Hosts" link on the home page. Has that been moved? Thanks. Rick |
   
Dirk Seffern
Senior Member Username: Seffern
Post Number: 542 Registered: 05-2002
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 - 02:05 am: |
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Hi Rick can you specify what kind of requirements do you have? How large is the board, is e-mail notification turned on always, how much bandwith etc. And especially, do you want to do the serverwork yourself (ugly part) or only the webinterface of the board administration (fun part)? I have several high end servers which I offer for webhosting under certain conditions for others who run discus boards. Discus boards only by the way. BUT I do not allow access to the server itself for others. So my service is the serverspace of a high end server, bandwith, installing & transfering the board, running security fixes and updates (if your licences are entiteled to). Your work would be the administration of discus from the frontend & managing your board. Everything what you can do now from the frontend of the webinterface. If you are interested, send me an PM or write here. |
   
Kevin P.
Moderator Username: Paulisse
Post Number: 16018 Registered: 11-1999
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 - 06:52 am: |
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If your web host allows you to schedule cron jobs, that may be a solution. Otherwise, if their policy is indeed as you state, having e-mail notification enabled with any kind of subscriber base will probably violate this policy. In finding a web host to host your Discus board, you do not necessarily need to look for a web host that is friendly to bulk mailing. If you're looking to switch, I suggest right away looking for one that does support cron jobs, as this can grow along with your subscriber base. You could even mention up front that you run forum software that sends out e-mail notification of posts to subscribing members who have explicitly registered for your site and then gone in and specifically requested those notifications, and in potentially choosing that web host, you want to make sure that this will not make you run afoul of any policies they may have regarding e-mail sending volume. |
   
Ed Peterson
Intermediate Member Username: Mustash
Post Number: 28 Registered: 02-2001
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 - 09:22 am: |
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I got thrown off Ipowerweb.com after after years of hosting by them. They claimed that discus/cgi_bin was causing a huge server load. My contact e-mail address was on their mail server and attached to my account. If they attempted to contact me it was through that after they had disabled the whole site. There was NO possibility to rectify anything! I suspect a flawed cron job written (by them). I don't and will never know despite months of inquiries. Got ripped off for 8 months of pre-paid hosting and then solicited for renewal of an account that I was denied access to. |
   
Blake
Senior Member Username: Blake
Post Number: 110 Registered: 03-2002
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 05:34 am: |
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Very interesting discussion. What kind of throughput capacity does an operation like OLM.net offer? Their server prices look amazing. My discus board-based server peaks at over 1Mb/s output fairly regularly and site traffic is still on the rise. How do you evaluate the peak capacity of these discount server operations. I'm paying on average around $500/mo right now for 120GB bandwidth and could sure use a break! But I'm not willing to risk problems for a few bucks. My current server at www.westfifth.com has been virtually bullet-proof. Anyone got any expert advice for me? The following shows an overview of my server load... http://mrtg.westfifth.com/firebolt.badweatherbikers.com_2-week.png That is a monthly graph showing 2 hour averages. Blue is output, green is input. |
   
Ej
Senior Member Username: Ejbogusch
Post Number: 679 Registered: 01-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, December 08, 2006 - 09:16 am: |
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Blake I use an OLM dedicated server without any problems once I upgrade the ram. They have a very good 24 hr support staff. I did have a few problems with a few Discus scripts hanging and using all the server's resources but since then I put a kill script alarm on those scripts which eliminated any further problems. |
   
Blake
Senior Member Username: Blake
Post Number: 111 Registered: 03-2002
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, December 15, 2006 - 02:55 pm: |
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Thanks for the input EJ. I'm looking very hard at OLM. What kind of server and what kind of traffic are you dealing with EJ? Is this a dedicated server all your own? |
   
Ej
Senior Member Username: Ejbogusch
Post Number: 680 Registered: 01-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, December 16, 2006 - 09:18 am: |
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I have a dedicated server, the Celeron Series 2 with 1 gig of ram. Below is the stats for last month. There is another board on my server which adds another 50%.
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Jerry Moore
Senior Member Username: Myshortpencil
Post Number: 188 Registered: 03-2001
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, December 16, 2006 - 07:24 pm: |
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I've been considering switching my hosting service to http://www.ixwebhosting.com/. Does anyone have any information about its service, download speed and compatibility with Discus? |
   
Blake
Senior Member Username: Blake
Post Number: 112 Registered: 03-2002
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 05:19 am: |
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Thanks EJ! Looks like I'd be good to go with one of the 200GB/mo server packages. |
   
Hubert F. Sturges
New member Username: Sturges
Post Number: 3 Registered: 05-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 01:44 pm: |
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I have a small forum using DiscusPro 4.1, just getting started. I use www.godaddy.com I have had absolutely no trouble with them. When I call for service I get an informed technician immediately and the problem solved. And their prices are very reasonable. Only problem, their website is very slow for a person with a dial-up connection. But it does work! |